same with karl rove, now coming out of the closet. we know his adopted father is believed to have been gay. what's worse exploying the big gory of others to increase your own power or being a big got? >> it's all calculations. this topic relates back to the gun topic congress can't get it passed while americans die because it's a political calculation. john: i love that you go back to the gun topic lee. brilliant. >> i think it's worse to be calculating about it, but that's the reason the tide is turning is because of that calculation because more americans are coming onboard with gay rights and the republican party are learning that homophobic stances don't fly with post americans. >> if the gop embraces most americans, where are the haters going to go? >> you just join the tea party i guess. i feel like the republican party right now is me when i was 13 years old and listening to michael jackson's man in the mirror. i knew i had to make a change. rob portman came out like pro gay marriage, did you not say anything. right now they're